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Akis1988 Administration
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| Subject: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:49 am | |
| EV GUIDE By: Akis1988
If your reading this guide you probably don't know what evs are, or what their purpose is. Sure you can beat the game without having a single clue as to what evs are. In fact you can even beat some low level battlers without an inch of knowledge concerning evs. So why learn about them? Well in the metagame of today you will need to know about evs to stand a chance in a real tournament. They can even help build to the uniqueness of your team. But lets get down to business.
What are EVs? If you've ever been around any serious competitive pokemon battlers, you've most likely heard the term "Evs" tossed around once or twice. Evs stand for "Effort Values". I like to think of Effort Values as skill points, such as in games like the Sims, where at the beginning you are given a certain amount of points and can distribute them to whatever stat or characteristic you want. This works in a similar matter in pokemon. Each time you gain 4 Evs in the same stat you gain an extra point in that stat. Each pokemon can gain a total of 510 evs (although the max is really 508, but I'll explain that later) meaning that you spread 127 stat points among your pokemon's stats.
How can I obtain EVs? Obtaining Evs is really quite simple. When one of your pokemon defeats another pokemon, either in the wild or from another trainer, they gain effort values along with the regular exp. points. The number of points and the kind of stat differs from pokemon to pokemon. Though in general you gain effort values in whatever stat the pokemon you defeated is strongest in (Ex. Machamp gives you attack evs). To see which pokemon gives what stats see the chart below. As previously stated, once you gain 4 evs of the same stat your pokemon gains an extra stat point in that particular category.
Maxing your stats with EVs I know that if some of you stopped reading right now you would probably go and fight a thousand pokemon thinking your pokemon would keep gaining evs until all its stats were 99999. However, the producers of the game were kind enough to put in ev limits. Each pokemon can only gain a total of 510 evs. But because 510 divided by 4 is 127.5 and the game rounds down the real total of evs a pokemon can receive is 508. The extra two points, i believe, are really just in case you make a tiny mistake in your ev training. In addition to the 508 max limit, each pokemon can only obtain 255 evs per stat. In a similar way to the 510 rule, the real total is 252 because 255 would waste 3 effort values. This means you can put up to 63 stat points in two different stats and 1 more point in a third stat.
Speeding up EV Training So wait Hidden, your telling me that for each of my six pokemon I have to fight 508 pokemon to collect all my effort values. Well in a way yes, but there are several ways to speed up the process: -Vitamins- Vitamins are handy items but they are a bit cost heavy. Each vitamin gives your pokemon 10 Evs in the corresponding stat (ex. Carbos gives 10 evs in speed). However, vitamins can only be used to gain the first 100 evs in a stat and can only give 100 evs (meaning you'll have to do the rest by other means). Vitamins are best used to collect easy evs. -Exp. Share- Yes, that same item that is used to raise weak pokemon can be used in ev training too. Just as the pokemon holding the exp. share gets the same amount of exp. as the pokemon battling, so do both pokemon collect the same number of effort values from each battle. This is useful for training weak pokemon when they are just hatched (after vitamins of course). -Macho Brace- If a trainer doesn't know about evs, the macho brace is a very curious item. While a pokemon is holding the macho brace it cuts said pokemon's speed in half, but it also doubles the evs obtained in each battle. Meaning instead of gaining one ev, the pokemon would gain two and so on. -Power items - The power items add 4 EVs to whatever you would normally gain. So if you fight someone that gives you 1 EV, the right power item will add 4 to that, making it 5 total EVs gained (they still half the speed of whoever is holding it though) This helps speed up the process if you know what EVs you're training in: Power Weight: HP Power Bracer: Att Power Belt: Def Power Lens: Sp. Att Power Band: Sp. Def Power Anklet: Speed -Pokerus- Pokerus is a special virus that is very difficult to obtain. It can only be found by battling a pokemon in the wild who has it, or by spreading it between able party members by having the pokemon infected with pokerus in your party. The odds of getting pokerus ingame are almost the same odds of getting a shiny . After 24 hours of being infected with pokerus outside of the box (pokerus status is frozen when in the pc) the pokemon is no longer able to spread the virus but it still gets the same benefits. What benefits? Once a pokemon is infected with pokerus it will always gain double evs from that point on, similar to the macho brace. That means using pokerus and macho brace in combination can give you 4 times the regular rate of evs. (ex. Instead of getting 1 Ev you would get 4 evs and so on)
EV Training Hot Spots ATK-Valor Lakefront- (Gyarados and Seaking give 2 EV in attack) DEF- Oreburgh Mines-(Geodude and Onix give 1 ev in def) SATK- Old Chateau-(Gastly, Haunter, and Gengar give 1,2, and 3 evs respectively) SDEF- Surfing almost anywhere-(Tentacool give 1 ev in sdef and tentacruel gives 2 evs.) SPD- On the fisherman bridge on Route 205, near Eterna City, the 2nd fisherman from the right-(Has 6 magikarp, earning 6 spd evs.) HP- Roue 213, in front of Hotel Grand Lake. The boy tuber running around; use vs. seeker on him (At first he has 3 shellos, which give 3 HP total, but they become gastrodon's later, giving 6 total)
EV Spreads The way in which you decide to distribute your evs in the various stats is called your "EV spread". EV Spreads can be very short or moderate but usually long spreads tend to fail. If you want a special sweeper for instance, a very simple spread could be 252 satk/ 252 spd/ 6hp. Basically you want to use ev spreading to your advantage (as in don't place attack evs on a special sweeper). Besides the general rules listed above, ev spreading is all up to you, the trainer. Ev spreading is fun, adding more strategy and creativeness to your team.
EV reducing Berries These berries reduce the amount of EVs in a particular stat by 10. So if you mess up, no need to worry! Use these berries to get back on track. #21: Pomeg Berry: Reduces HP EVs by 10. #22: Kelpsy Berry: Reduces Attack EVs by 10. #23: Qualot Berry: Reduces Defense EVs by 10. #24: Hondew Berry: Reduces Special Attack EVs by 10. #25: Grepa Berry: Reduces Special Defense EVs by 10. #26: Tamato Berry: Reduces Speed EVs by 10. | |
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pokelover Combusken
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:19 am | |
| i have never EV'ed before thank you for this | |
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Pteraclaw Wartortle
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:23 am | |
| - Akis1988 wrote:
- ... The odds of getting pokerus ingame are almost the same odds of getting a shiny...
The odds of a shiny are about one in 8192. The odds of an infected pokémon is about one in 21,845. ___________ Stats can't drop after leveling, right? Can't you then just boost one largely, then use the berries to remove the EVs and boost another? | |
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pokenondis100 Caterpie
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| Subject: ................................... Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:37 am | |
| Pokerus is a special virus that is very difficult to obtain. It can only be found
i obtain the pkrs very easily !!!
and... does starly help you on speed ? | |
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Pteraclaw Wartortle
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:14 am | |
| - pokenondis100 wrote:
- Pokerus is a special virus that is very difficult to obtain. It can only be found
i obtain the pkrs very easily !!!
and... does starly help you on speed ? You can't obtain it easily without hacking. Starly gives 1 EV toward Speed. | |
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pokenondis100 Caterpie
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| Subject: ...................... Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:31 pm | |
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Dawn Bulbasaur
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:28 pm | |
| i dident hack and i got it easily to | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:40 am | |
| Its not so much hard to get as it is unlikely to get. I have it too, but I've only encountered one pokemon on all the games I've ever played with it | |
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iLiAs9 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:18 pm | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:46 pm | |
| Anyone needs it I can try trading you a pokemon with it. | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:47 pm | |
| It is very helpful however, It makes it go so much faster in tandem with Macho Brace. | |
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iLiAs9 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:59 pm | |
| i've got a problem with my ev.training | |
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Pteraclaw Wartortle
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:55 am | |
| Come on, ILIAS1, stop posthunting. What's your problem? | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:11 am | |
| I agree with Shedskin, make useful contributions for your posts. If you are going to say what your problem with ev. training is say it in the post | |
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iLiAs9 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:51 pm | |
| ok sry hear:
i was ev.training my gengar at the old chateau. it was holding macho brace and had the pokerus it was level 40 when i leveled it up and it took +30 at sp.atk.
now, i have it 65 level, and every time i give it a level (from 42lvl to 65lvl) it always takes +3.
oh and it's nature is mild it raises sp. atk, but the problem is why it can't take a big number when it level up with gastlys. | |
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Pteraclaw Wartortle
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:21 pm | |
| When it first levelled up after gaining all the new EVs, it was basically playing catch-up for all of the points it would have gotten over the previous levels. It's not gaining so much any more because it has already caught up, and isn't supposed to get a boost that big for every level any more. | |
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iLiAs9 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:28 pm | |
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Pteraclaw Wartortle
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:29 pm | |
| It wont get another major boost like that, no. But it's not supposed to, either. | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:24 am | |
| You probably maxed out his special attack evs. By doing that it makes it so that he can't raise his stats by anything more than about 3 each level. | |
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DistortionWorldMan Caterpie
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:28 am | |
| Well... That explains why my Electivire and Magmortar aren't going up so much anymore.
Anyway, I find the lake full of Magikarp outside the Resort Area in Platinum to be a good speed EV place.
Also, does anyone know if the hidden ruler of the resort area is really that lv100 Magikarp, or something good? | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:07 am | |
| Its the level 100 Magikarp. But you don't think a level 100 magikarp is cool? | |
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iLiAs9 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:47 am | |
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pokemonmaster764 Moderators
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:47 am | |
| has anyone ever even caught one? | |
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pdog1013 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:28 pm | |
| I personally haven't but have seen videos of people who have | |
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iLiAs9 Administration
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| Subject: Re: EV Guide!!!!!!!!1 Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:08 pm | |
| i have shown a video on youtube with a magikarp that won a mewtwo a deoxys and an arceus | |
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